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Tinyfolk — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:10:17 +0000

There is no such thing as authenticity. It’s a bullshit concept.

By: Patrick Ripoll

Patrick Ripoll — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:42:14 +0000

You have to be weary of any rapper, regardless of race. There’s been VERY few authentic voices to emerge from mainstream rap in the past 10 years.

And fuck freestyle. I don’t give a damn how quickly you can talk shit about some bastard you don’t know. Make an album I want to listen all the way through, and we’ll talk.

By: Tinyfolk

Tinyfolk — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:17:26 +0000

I was talking more about public perception than my personal feelings on the matter. I honestly don’t care what you represent yourself as, or what your background is, just so long as you can make a decent song. Or at least I like to think that’s the way I feel.

And as for the freestyle circuit, I think a big part of being successful in that sort of capacity is about recreating yourself as a larger-than-life character, and so obviously lies and exaggerations will abound. It’s just about how convincingly you can play that character.

By: errandboy

errandboy — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:56:57 +0000

i don’t think the fugees or eminem ever over-reached on where they were from, it’s mostly rap that leans heavily on slang and posturing that i can’t take

that sort of posing is getting wheeded out of the mainstream, but you’ll still come across a ton of it on any freestyle circuit

By: Tinyfolk

Tinyfolk — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:55:41 +0000

I think the whole concept of “authenticity” is problematic. Lauryn Hill went to the same New Jersey high school as Zach Braff, and her dad was a computer programmer. No one questions the Fugees’ “authenticity”. Eminem grew up in a trailer park outside Detroit, but plenty of people talk shit about him as a rapper (though I think that might stem as much from his immaturity as from his whiteness).

I think the “conscious rap” scene, which bleeds into the “backpacker” scene, is pretty much over the whole white/black dichotomy, though you could make the case that that style of music is basically “rap music for white people,” as it removes a lot of the elements to which most middle class white liberals take umbrage. Gangsta rap/”street” rap/whatever is very much not over it, though there are a few exceptions. Though there aren’t many white rappers in the Club/Party hip-hop scene, I could totally see it happening, what with Justin Timberlake getting produced by Timbaland and all.